Why wasn't my MLA Rachel Notley in the Legislature to vote for the amendment? Mason was the only ND there.
Bridget Pastoor, Harry Chase, Brian Mason, Kevin Taft, Kent Hehr, and Dave Taylor voted for the amendment.
Ken Allred, Jack Hayden, Alison Redford, Moe Amery, Fred Horne, Rob Renner, Manmeet Bhullar Doug Horner, Peter Sandhu, Neil Brown, Broyce Jacobs, Lloyd Snelgrove, Pearl Calahasen, Heather Klimchuk, Ron Stevens, Robin Campbell, Fred Lindsay, George VanderBurg, Jonathan Denis, Ty Lund, Greg Weadick, Arno Doerksen, Richard Marz, Theresa Woo-Paw, Iris Evans, Barry McFarland, David Xiao, Hector Goudreau, Luke Ouellette, Gene Zwozdesky, and Dave Hancock voted against the amendment.
I don't know if QP is having issues, but I can't read through the formatting problems in Bill 18. From what I can tell, there is some sort of clause that says that the Lieutenant Governor in Council (cabinet) can make regulations that overwrite the law, and that those regulations can be retroactive.
Abdication of legislative power is unconstitutional. But there's this strange constitutional argument about whether or not a legislature can really abdicate its own legislative power, since it can always repeal the act that delegated the power to someone else.
Which is to say, I'm not certain whether s.5 is constitutional. But I'm certain it's highly offensive to democracy.
Both of those are probably reasons that the government isn't talking about it. Which makes the second one worse.
What's wrong with giving Cabinet the flexibility to deal with laws without having to wait for a legislature to sit? This is what progress looks like. Get used to it.
Agreed with KBH -- I want the Cabinet to govern with their gut instincts rather than submit to the whims of the circus that is the legislature. Keep things simple and streamlined; it's given us the best government in North America, so I don't see what all the handwringing is about.
So, when the Alberta Liberals form the next government, will they repeal TILMA quicker or slower than the federal Liberal repealed NAFTA?
I liked it way better in the 1980s, when only the beer brewed in a province could be sold there. This non-Alberta beer sucks.
What do people actually object to in TILMA? They don't want the option to pursue work options in BC? I know its trade policy and it's boring stuff to read (which is why no one at the Journal bothered to until it was signed) but do you have real stuff or just everything the Tories do is evil?
I think that letting various supra-national firms run rampant through any economy is soooo self-sabotage. Tilma is the decentralization of accountabilty that is the reason I pay taxes (that are already being given away at the moment).
That... and the fact that rule for, by, and of corporations, is the very definition of FACISM!
TILMA also disempowers communities to have any say about what happens where they live. Tilma allows companies to sue government (there-by punishing the tax payer) for anything the company deems is hampering it's bottom line. For example Exxon (I think it was Exxon) was able to sue us under NAFTA because we refused to allow a carcinogenic additive be used. Now our gas can cause cancer and we're out of pocket.
There millions of possible ramification for the public under TILMA...
Dave Cournoyer began blogging in 2005 while studying Political Science at the University of Alberta in Edmonton. In 2006, he was elected Vice-President (External) his Students’ Union and served as Chair of the Council of Alberta University Students until 2007. Since then, he has worked as Communication Coordinator for Alberta’s official opposition party and for various advocacy and public policy groups. As well as writing on this blog, Dave also occasionally writes for publications such as SEE Magazine.
Opposition MLAs have no business drafting legislation. Period. End of non-story.
ReplyDeleteThis blog somehow gets more and more pathetic every day.
Ha. PC MLA's voting away their right to public debate. Sheep.
ReplyDeleteDave,
ReplyDeleteSection five does far more than give cabinet the ability to amend that bill, they can amend any bill.
See my post on the subject.
If Pastoor had crossed the floor to the PCs then maybe her amendment would have passed at a Tory caucus meeting.
ReplyDeleteWhy wasn't my MLA Rachel Notley in the Legislature to vote for the amendment? Mason was the only ND there.
ReplyDeleteBridget Pastoor, Harry Chase, Brian Mason, Kevin Taft, Kent Hehr, and Dave Taylor voted for the amendment.
Ken Allred, Jack Hayden, Alison Redford, Moe Amery, Fred Horne, Rob Renner, Manmeet Bhullar Doug Horner, Peter Sandhu, Neil Brown, Broyce Jacobs, Lloyd Snelgrove, Pearl Calahasen, Heather Klimchuk, Ron Stevens, Robin Campbell, Fred Lindsay, George VanderBurg, Jonathan Denis, Ty Lund, Greg Weadick, Arno Doerksen, Richard Marz, Theresa Woo-Paw, Iris Evans, Barry McFarland, David Xiao, Hector Goudreau, Luke Ouellette, Gene Zwozdesky, and Dave Hancock voted against the amendment.
I don't know if QP is having issues, but I can't read through the formatting problems in Bill 18. From what I can tell, there is some sort of clause that says that the Lieutenant Governor in Council (cabinet) can make regulations that overwrite the law, and that those regulations can be retroactive.
ReplyDeleteAbdication of legislative power is unconstitutional. But there's this strange constitutional argument about whether or not a legislature can really abdicate its own legislative power, since it can always repeal the act that delegated the power to someone else.
Which is to say, I'm not certain whether s.5 is constitutional. But I'm certain it's highly offensive to democracy.
Both of those are probably reasons that the government isn't talking about it. Which makes the second one worse.
TILMA was negotiated and signed without the approval or consultation of the elected Legislature. The entire creation of TILMA was behind closed doors.
ReplyDeleteEdmonton-Centre MLA Laurie Blakeman called Bill 18 an 'omnibus Bill' because it is so completely packed with changes.
Blakeman brought up the Cabinet powers changes in the Legislature on March 12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaCSFo9ryuQ
Another nail in the coffin of citizenship and democracy in Alberta. More power to the cabinet. More power to closed door cabinet meetings.
ReplyDeleteWhat's wrong with giving Cabinet the flexibility to deal with laws without having to wait for a legislature to sit? This is what progress looks like. Get used to it.
ReplyDeleteAgreed with KBH -- I want the Cabinet to govern with their gut instincts rather than submit to the whims of the circus that is the legislature. Keep things simple and streamlined; it's given us the best government in North America, so I don't see what all the handwringing is about.
ReplyDeleteSo, when the Alberta Liberals form the next government, will they repeal TILMA quicker or slower than the federal Liberal repealed NAFTA?
ReplyDeleteI liked it way better in the 1980s, when only the beer brewed in a province could be sold there. This non-Alberta beer sucks.
What do people actually object to in TILMA? They don't want the option to pursue work options in BC? I know its trade policy and it's boring stuff to read (which is why no one at the Journal bothered to until it was signed) but do you have real stuff or just everything the Tories do is evil?
Walt - It's not about TILMA. It's about public debate in the Legislature instead of decisions being made behind closed doors.
ReplyDeleteOh, my mistake.
ReplyDeleteGlad we agree about TILMA.
I think that letting various supra-national firms run rampant through any economy is soooo self-sabotage. Tilma is the decentralization of accountabilty that is the reason I pay taxes (that are already being given away at the moment).
ReplyDeleteThat... and the fact that rule for, by, and of corporations, is the very definition of FACISM!
TILMA also disempowers communities to have any say about what happens where they live. Tilma allows companies to sue government (there-by punishing the tax payer) for anything the company deems is hampering it's bottom line. For example Exxon (I think it was Exxon) was able to sue us under NAFTA because we refused to allow a carcinogenic additive be used. Now our gas can cause cancer and we're out of pocket.
ReplyDeleteThere millions of possible ramification for the public under TILMA...