BTW. Are you Bono? How did you get an email address with @u2.com??? That's pretty sweet.
Nope, just a big fan. You get the U2.com addy if you're a Propaganda (U2s' fan club) member or subscribe to U2.com. You get some access to exclusive material on the web site and first crack at advanced ticket sales. Membership has it's privilages.
Speaking as someone who doesn't want to see a Liberal majority, I have to admit I agree with a lot of what the story says. It does seem to be shaping up that way. Especially when you consider that in BC the Cons have slipped to 3rd.
There is a disconnect between what we want our politicians to do, and what we force them to do, isn't there?
We want them to think of the good of the country. We force them to think of the good of the party first, in order to get a chance to think of the good of the country.
This is thinking of the party. I agree with JC, it's not rocket science. Figure out which seats you're likely to win again without much effort (s). Figure out the difference between that number and the number of seats required for a majority, plus perhaps a small cushion for safety (n=155+m-s). Then, choose the n seats in which your polling numbers are the best, and win them.
I have to admit, the fact that somehow some prairie seats got into 'n' is disconcerting.
I agree. It's obviously a big part of the Liberal strategists job to strategize to win seats. I just don't think it's realistic that the Federal Liberals are going to win a majority, nor do I believe they deserve to hold a majority of seats in the House of Commons.
Though I agree, I think it depends what the definition of "prairies" is.
I think it is entirely realistic that the fed Liberals could win one more (or influence races in some) urban western ridings.
A number of ridings in Manitoba, Sask, and Alberta (okay, maybe 2-3 in Alberta...) could go Lib/Con or ND/Con.
Of course in Alberta, Edmonton remains the bastion of electoral competition with the perenial battlegrounds of Edmonton Centre, East, Beaumont-MW, and Strathcona all being solid ground for no one. At least in Alberta, these are the seats that if any would change hands to parties other than the Tories.
It's VERY telling that Herle didn't discuss any polling numbers in that meeting. You can guarantee that if the polling numbers had supported his speech, they would have been included.
You can always trust Cherniak to echo the party line (HA!)..
I really can't see the Liberals reaching majority status without major gains in Quebec. The Conservatives have nowhere to go but up in Ontario, and the seats in Saskatchewan/Manitoba/BC Interior would go NDP before they would go Liberal.
As for Alberta - this recent talk about taking their surplus and giving it to other provinces should lock up a Conservative sweep there, if it wasn't a given already.
If an election were held in the near future, my guess is the Conservatives and Liberals would both lose a few seats, and the NDP and BQ would gain a few seats, leaving us with the status quo, and resignations from both Paul Martin and Stephen Harper.
Dave Cournoyer began blogging in 2005 while studying Political Science at the University of Alberta in Edmonton. In 2006, he was elected Vice-President (External) his Students’ Union and served as Chair of the Council of Alberta University Students until 2007. Since then, he has worked as Communication Coordinator for Alberta’s official opposition party and for various advocacy and public policy groups. As well as writing on this blog, Dave also occasionally writes for publications such as SEE Magazine.
About as much chance as the Conservatives winning seats in Quebec GET REAL!
ReplyDeletethat was my point.
ReplyDeleteWith the federal Liberals ability to scare eastern Canada, and the Tories inability to run a campain without self-destructing, anything is possible.
ReplyDeletetrue. what a bizarre quagmire Canadian politics is.
ReplyDeleteBTW. Are you Bono? How did you get an email address with @u2.com??? That's pretty sweet.
BTW. Are you Bono? How did you get an email address with @u2.com??? That's pretty sweet.
ReplyDeleteNope, just a big fan. You get the U2.com addy if you're a Propaganda (U2s' fan club) member or subscribe to U2.com. You get some access to exclusive material on the web site and first crack at advanced ticket sales. Membership has it's privilages.
Speaking as someone who doesn't want to see a Liberal majority, I have to admit I agree with a lot of what the story says. It does seem to be shaping up that way. Especially when you consider that in BC the Cons have slipped to 3rd.
ReplyDeleteCanadian politics as quagmire --
ReplyDeletethat's hilarious.
Oh come on. What I wrote is the proper answer. All we get from the PMO is the headline "Martin says Quebec will not be ignored".
ReplyDeletesimon wrote: " Canadian politics as quagmire --
ReplyDeletethat's hilarious."
hehe...
jason wrote: "Oh come on. What I wrote is the proper answer. All we get from the PMO is the headline "Martin says Quebec will not be ignored"."
Quebec was being ignored? What about Adscam?
There is a disconnect between what we want our politicians to do, and what we force them to do, isn't there?
ReplyDeleteWe want them to think of the good of the country. We force them to think of the good of the party first, in order to get a chance to think of the good of the country.
This is thinking of the party. I agree with JC, it's not rocket science. Figure out which seats you're likely to win again without much effort (s). Figure out the difference between that number and the number of seats required for a majority, plus perhaps a small cushion for safety (n=155+m-s). Then, choose the n seats in which your polling numbers are the best, and win them.
I have to admit, the fact that somehow some prairie seats got into 'n' is disconcerting.
I agree. It's obviously a big part of the Liberal strategists job to strategize to win seats. I just don't think it's realistic that the Federal Liberals are going to win a majority, nor do I believe they deserve to hold a majority of seats in the House of Commons.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how realistic the Libs getting "more" seats in the prairies is.
ReplyDeleteHi Candace,
ReplyDeleteThough I agree, I think it depends what the definition of "prairies" is.
I think it is entirely realistic that the fed Liberals could win one more (or influence races in some) urban western ridings.
A number of ridings in Manitoba, Sask, and Alberta (okay, maybe 2-3 in Alberta...) could go Lib/Con or ND/Con.
Of course in Alberta, Edmonton remains the bastion of electoral competition with the perenial battlegrounds of Edmonton Centre, East, Beaumont-MW, and Strathcona all being solid ground for no one. At least in Alberta, these are the seats that if any would change hands to parties other than the Tories.
It's VERY telling that Herle didn't discuss any polling numbers in that meeting. You can guarantee that if the polling numbers had supported his speech, they would have been included.
ReplyDeleteYou can always trust Cherniak to echo the party line (HA!)..
I really can't see the Liberals reaching majority status without major gains in Quebec. The Conservatives have nowhere to go but up in Ontario, and the seats in Saskatchewan/Manitoba/BC Interior would go NDP before they would go Liberal.
As for Alberta - this recent talk about taking their surplus and giving it to other provinces should lock up a Conservative sweep there, if it wasn't a given already.
If an election were held in the near future, my guess is the Conservatives and Liberals would both lose a few seats, and the NDP and BQ would gain a few seats, leaving us with the status quo, and resignations from both Paul Martin and Stephen Harper.